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 Post subject: Defining Definitive Figures: Nikto Jedi
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:13 am 
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Time to get a PT specific character discussion going. Up next for Defining Definitive Figures is the Nikto Jedi. I have heard that Fi-Ek Sirch and another Nikto Jedi are distinct characters. I'm not really sure.

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Fi-Ek Sirch was a male Kajain'sa'Nikto Jedi Knight during the waning days of the Galactic Republic. He was part of the 200-strong Jedi task force sent to Geonosis to rescue Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker, and Padmé Amidala. Although he was a trained Jedi, he was ultimately killed in the subsequent battle.

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Two versions:
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What's your opinion? Do we need a new version? Do we need 2 distinct Nikto Jedi? If so, What specifics are you looking for?

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 Post subject: Re: Defining Definitive Figures: Nikto Jedi
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:04 am 
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I am neither for or against a a definitive version of this figure- as I would not spend the money on it any how. This particular vote is for the fans of E1, E2, E3, and CW who would spend the $$ on it.

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 Post subject: Re: Defining Definitive Figures: Nikto Jedi
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:08 pm 
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"Nikto Jedi" is done. I couldn't even tell you where he was in the movie. I only have the tan "cloaked" version of this figure and it basically has ONE pose. (See the picture above). Still, I don't want another one. He looks good on the shelf as is. I'd rather see a new Nikto skiff guard.

I vote: Definitive! (or at least good enough).


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 Post subject: Re: Defining Definitive Figures: Nikto Jedi
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:41 pm 
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I vote NOT DONE. I would like this figure given the SA treatment. His static pose is not good enough. I would rather a skiff guard but I don't think it's an either or. The jedi could come with a PT wave and the guard with an OT wave. I definately think this figure needs to be redone.

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 Post subject: Re: Defining Definitive Figures: Nikto Jedi
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:37 am 
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I think some people are voting for what they would buy vs want they wouldn't buy. If you look at the photos here against the figures that have been give to us by Hasbro it is quite clear that this guy isn't definitive. He doesn't have the correct paint apps and I don't thing that his head is accurately sculpted either. This figure isn't even close to be definitive in my book on just those two points, but if you throw in that he has basic articulation that just pushes him that much more over the top.

NOT DEFINITIVE

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 Post subject: Re: Defining Definitive Figures: Nikto Jedi
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:57 pm 
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I would be content if he was never done again. As, I look at him, my biggest problem is paint apps....he looks too clean and his face is too solid of a color for me. The face sculpt could be done better. The dynamic pose does not bother me at all. I am fine with the current articulation.

Would I buy a new one - Yes
Do I think he needs to be redone - no
Could he be done much better - yes
Does he need to be - not really
Can I find him in the movie - no

I guess my vote is that he IS DEFINITIVE

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 Post subject: Re: Defining Definitive Figures: Nikto Jedi
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:32 pm 
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Empire1980 wrote:
I think some people are voting for what they would buy vs want they wouldn't buy. If you look at the photos here against the figures that have been give to us by Hasbro it is quite clear that this guy isn't definitive. He doesn't have the correct paint apps and I don't thing that his head is accurately sculpted either. This figure isn't even close to be definitive in my book on just those two points, but if you throw in that he has basic articulation that just pushes him that much more over the top.

NOT DEFINITIVE



This is where it gets murky. I don't think any figure will be truly "definitive" until you are holding an exact replica of the figure in your hand.......so our definition of definitive has to be a little bit looser.

In the case of the Nikto Jedi I'd say Hasbro has given us a figure that is good enough for our toy collection. So my version of "definitive" is based on my collection needs. They can make a better figure. But since he's not an army builder or core character I can more easily write him off as finished.


If you really think about it, would you even know you wanted this guy if Hasbro didn't make a figure of him?


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 Post subject: Re: Defining Definitive Figures: Nikto Jedi
PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:31 am 
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Inquisitor Glokta wrote:
Empire1980 wrote:
I think some people are voting for what they would buy vs want they wouldn't buy. If you look at the photos here against the figures that have been give to us by Hasbro it is quite clear that this guy isn't definitive. He doesn't have the correct paint apps and I don't thing that his head is accurately sculpted either. This figure isn't even close to be definitive in my book on just those two points, but if you throw in that he has basic articulation that just pushes him that much more over the top.

NOT DEFINITIVE



This is where it gets murky. I don't think any figure will be truly "definitive" until you are holding an exact replica of the figure in your hand.......so our definition of definitive has to be a little bit looser.

In the case of the Nikto Jedi I'd say Hasbro has given us a figure that is good enough for our toy collection. So my version of "definitive" is based on my collection needs. They can make a better figure. But since he's not an army builder or core character I can more easily write him off as finished.


If you really think about it, would you even know you wanted this guy if Hasbro didn't make a figure of him?


I totally wouldn't be asking for this figure, nor would I even buy this figure again unless Hasbro had some great pack-in like the build-a-droid pieces. I just form my responses for these topics from the vantage point of does the figure we have look like the character on screen/reference photo. No Dewbackhunter, I have no idea where this guy pops up either.

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 Post subject: Re: Defining Definitive Figures: Nikto Jedi
PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:06 am 
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This figure is done then- label it definitive already- ha!

Here's a sidebar conversation then.......if he was made 2x in the modern line and no one can pinpoint his actual movie appearance then why was he even made???

Oh but asking for figures that actually were on the screen gets a murk 3 or 3 years (if even) down the road reply.....interior Echo Base Rebel soldier, a proper exterior Hoth Rebel Commander, grey DeathStar Commander...hint, hint, hint!

Do not get me started on a single carded Tie Fighter Pilot (though that's no longer need by me).

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 Post subject: Re: Defining Definitive Figures: Nikto Jedi
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I like the nikto jedi and think it is a cool figure.....tell you the truth though.....when I was young I thought their species was too dumb to be jedi's. Many of the aliens from jabbas palace were just not bright enough. Think about it can you see a gamorrean jedi.

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